The fast and hard fall of Sam Bankman-Fried's empire sent shockwaves through the global crypto markets and raised troubling questions about industry governance practices. A hedge fund manager whose firm invested in SBF's exchange (and vice versa) and the former president of FTX's U.S. arm candidly reflect on how it all went wrong, what they'd do differently, and how they are reengaging and working to build a better industry.

Tracy Wang, deputy managing editor of CoinDesk, moderates alongside panelists:

• Brett Harrison, founder and CEO of Architect
• Anthony Scaramucci, founder and managing partner of SkyBridge Capital

This episode is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and edited by Ryan Huntington, with additional production assistance from Eleanor Pahl. Cover image by Kevin Ross and the theme song is "Get Down" by Elision.